smittex wrote:The way I see it, I don't want to do any tool improvement due to numerous times people bitching about what was done. Case in point, Scott and I cleaned up the vacuform machine and were making plans on getting it working. Because of several rude comments saying we were idiots, we walked away from it and were later told it was someones personal equipment. all the hard work gone into organizing the shop is not working and is really pissing some people off.
Yeah, unfortunately maker spaces that are open to all attract people who are "experts" on many more things than they have time to do, or have an interest in helping with. My approach is to completely ignore what people say, unless I've witnessed positive efforts that support the words. Ownership is a bit different, but anything that's in the space and needs repair / clean-up is fair game unless very clearly marked as a hands off personal project. I think that many things are there for the group to use and may need repair and expertise that the owner doesn't have, or requires time and energy the owner doesn't have. I'm quite sure that is the case with the vacuum former, you are speaking of.
I'm saddened to hear your experience with the vacuum former, and would suggest that while it's unfortunate, you need to work through the expert advice you'll receive. TC Maker is a do-ocracy. We need members to take the lead on projects as you did. When you get advice, I would recommend, putting that person on the spot as publicly as possible, and asking "OK, when will you be coming in to help with that suggestion, or purchasing the item / tool / service etc needed to do it your way?", and when they predictably demur, you can disregard them, and they'll understand they've been called on their BS.
I'm not saying everyone giving expert advice is wrong or obstructionist, but I'll take active work on a valuable project over talk any day. I do things during my day job that I think I'm pretty good at, but at the HF I try hard to not comment negatively on efforts I might do differently, that I'm not prepared to be actively involved in.
Just my thoughts.