paulsobczak wrote:I think the vagueness is what I have a problem with, to me it does not get to the heart of the matter, people over using the space or exploiting it. Using the phrase "significant personal gains" makes it feel like that could be used to kick someone out of the group for making things in the space.
The vagueness is exactly the point. What it feels like has no relevance here. We couldn't kick somebody out for making things; that'd be ridiculous (unless they're making pipe bombs or methamphetamine or whatever). We COULD kick somebody out for making things to SELL, and we WOULD need new members to understand that.
You can't legislate good judgement. Bylaws are necessary, but they aren't what will make the organization thrive. Individuals make a community. Likewise, abuse & bad faith can cause it to fail pretty expediently. If we need to be able to make a judgement call about kicking out Joe Snowshoe Assembly Line, since he's been pocketing all his sales cash while paying members are quitting since they can't get their own projects done, then we need something concrete to point to, which he agreed to when he joined up. This section right here, sir, is the point at which you've breached your contract with everyone else. See it? Make reparations or be removed.
And again: This may all be a moot argument. Right now, we need to concentrate on what it means to be a not-for-profit concern.
(you guys are posting replies too fast, btw)